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senator mitchell, you more or less have been in john boehner's shoes. you were a congressional leader hammering out a tax and spending cut deal with the president of the opposing party. how is what we're seeing now different than what you experienced two decades ago? >> it's similar in terms of the issues, the positions of the parties have been that way for a long time. it's different in several respects. first, when i was there, it was the president who had made the no tax pledge. president bush the first, as you'll recall, made a very famous no tax pledge which he eventually backed off of. in this case, it's the congress. the republicans in the congress specifically, who have made the tax pledge, and the president who is trying to get them to break it. secondly, the numbers are very much reflecting the passage of time. we were very concerned because we thought the budget was going to be -- the deficit was going to be about $150 billion. that shocked everyone into action. then, unlike now, there remains some degree of bipartisanship. there was comity,
senator mitchell, you more or less have been in john boehner's shoes. you were a congressional leader hammering out a tax and spending cut deal with the president of the opposing party. how is what we're seeing now different than what you experienced two decades ago? >> it's similar in terms of the issues, the positions of the parties have been that way for a long time. it's different in several respects. first, when i was there, it was the president who had made the no tax pledge....
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john boehner has to go back to his caucus and sell this. getti the president is not putting forward an offer and he's right p. the white house is playing a weird game. but these guys don't understand the polling is against them. the facts are against them and election has been won. top 2% will pay more tax. end of story. >> and i didn't hear the speaker address that 75% say the top 2%, take it off the table. thank you. great you stayed around. appreciate it. >>> also remember to keep your tweets coming into us because we will keep ali on the hot seat to answer your questions. tweet me with all your personal questions when the fiscal cliff and the things that you're concerned for your own personal economy. ls ♪ ♪ all seem to say throw care away ♪ ♪ from everywhere, filling the air ♪ [ female announcer ] chex party mix. easy 15-minute homemade recipes you just pop in a microwave. like caramel chocolate drizzles. happier holidays. chex party mix. how they'll live tomorrow. for more than 116 years, ameriprise financial has worked for
john boehner has to go back to his caucus and sell this. getti the president is not putting forward an offer and he's right p. the white house is playing a weird game. but these guys don't understand the polling is against them. the facts are against them and election has been won. top 2% will pay more tax. end of story. >> and i didn't hear the speaker address that 75% say the top 2%, take it off the table. thank you. great you stayed around. appreciate it. >>> also remember to...
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boehner's trying to mitigate that mess. i wish him luck. something's going to f to have to give. >> from everything i've heard is that we are realistically, there's two options for country. one, go over the cliff. the other, extend the bush tax cuts for the 98% of americans. everyone who makes under $200,000 a year if they're single. those seem to be the two choices. between those, which do you pick? >> but, if we do that and raise the taxes on those small businesses we were just talking about, according to the congressional budget office, that's going to be about 200,000 american families are going to be out of work next year and that's the low estimate. young is estimating about 700,000 more unemployed. that's a lot of hurt for the middle class, so this is a battle for the middle class even when we're talk iing about that upper bracket because of the enormous impact that has on small business job creators. >> okay. i mean, aside from that argument though, i'm really trying to just get at the process here. it seems that there isn't that mu
boehner's trying to mitigate that mess. i wish him luck. something's going to f to have to give. >> from everything i've heard is that we are realistically, there's two options for country. one, go over the cliff. the other, extend the bush tax cuts for the 98% of americans. everyone who makes under $200,000 a year if they're single. those seem to be the two choices. between those, which do you pick? >> but, if we do that and raise the taxes on those small businesses we were just...
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boehner said no way. and then tom cole said boehner should not offer a counterproposal to the fiscal cliff deal the president presented. boehner offered a proposal yesterday. i asked cole if he's frustrated with john boehner. >> no, not in the least. look, i support the speaker. and we're actually not very far apart on anything. and, you know, at the end of the day, he's going to negotiate a deal. it will probably be a challenging vote for a lot of people. i always support him. i would expect i will again and try and persuade others. just to be clear, i'm not for raising taxes on anybody. i think it's a mistake. i think all republicans believe that. however, you have to recognize the reality that at the end of the month, tax rates for every american that pays income tax are going to go up. so there is an area that we do agree with the president on. that is 98% of the american people, getting about 80% of this tax cut shouldn't have their taxes raised. so my suggestion -- it was delivered, by the way, in p
boehner said no way. and then tom cole said boehner should not offer a counterproposal to the fiscal cliff deal the president presented. boehner offered a proposal yesterday. i asked cole if he's frustrated with john boehner. >> no, not in the least. look, i support the speaker. and we're actually not very far apart on anything. and, you know, at the end of the day, he's going to negotiate a deal. it will probably be a challenging vote for a lot of people. i always support him. i would...
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john boehner sitting by himself. all alone. not a single member of his party willing to share a seat. dent even have any milk to drink because, well, tell them why, john. >> they took my milk and threw it in the garbage. >> "early start" continues right now. >>> i'm so devastated for them. i'm really feeling for them. >> breaking radio silence. two deejays talk about the family of the nurse who took her own life after getting duped by their prank call. >>> top secret rescue mission. an american saved in afghanistan but at a heavy price. >> look who's talking. president obama and john boehner finally get together a little more than three weeks before we hit the fiscal cliff. good morning, everyone. welcome to "early start." i'm john berman. >> it's so night to you have back, john. it's 6:00 a.m. in the east. let's get started. the two men who stand between all of us and the fiscal cliff are finally speaking face-to-face. president obama and house speaker john boehner actually looked into each other's eyes yesterday and they talk
john boehner sitting by himself. all alone. not a single member of his party willing to share a seat. dent even have any milk to drink because, well, tell them why, john. >> they took my milk and threw it in the garbage. >> "early start" continues right now. >>> i'm so devastated for them. i'm really feeling for them. >> breaking radio silence. two deejays talk about the family of the nurse who took her own life after getting duped by their prank call....
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he met with john boehner yesterday. their first face to face meeting in more than three weeks. today, the president will visit a detroit engine factory. the president's meeting with john boehner did not yield a breakthrough, but the men did agree on one thing. they'll keep their negotiations behind closed doors. they released a statement saying this. this afternoon, the president and speaker boehner met at the white house to discuss efforts to resolve the fiscal cliff. we are not reading out the details of the conversation, but the lines of communication remain open. dan lothian is at the white house. how telling is it that the statements were identical from both the president and speaker boehner? >> it shows that both sides agree on something and that is that they're not going to continue to have this debate play out in front of the cameras, harsh rhetoric going back and forth. but instead, will do it in private and i think that's very telling. certainly, we don't know what happened in that meeting because neither side getting any details. perhaps they did have a breakthrough
he met with john boehner yesterday. their first face to face meeting in more than three weeks. today, the president will visit a detroit engine factory. the president's meeting with john boehner did not yield a breakthrough, but the men did agree on one thing. they'll keep their negotiations behind closed doors. they released a statement saying this. this afternoon, the president and speaker boehner met at the white house to discuss efforts to resolve the fiscal cliff. we are not reading out...
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he's blaming the republican john boehner for the stall in talks on fiscal cliff. dana bash is our congressional correspondent. it just seems like this is the blame game. the house speaker would blame the president, the senate majority leader would blame the house speaker. who is to blame in all this? >> everybody is, carol. it's the blame game. i'm a little surprised at how personal harry reid just got in going after the speaker. it is true that things have clearly broken down, that goes without saying, and that the democrats were not happy that maybe a week and a half ago the speaker pulled out of talks with the president after they had reached a pretty good amount of progress. but the fact that he called the speaker a dictator and in the next breath said he's worried about his job, it's a little contradictory, but very personal. let me give you a little bit of a reality check. that is it is true that the house is not in session. they will come in quickly at 2:00 in a pro formal way and house republican leaders have told members they will give them 48-hours notic
he's blaming the republican john boehner for the stall in talks on fiscal cliff. dana bash is our congressional correspondent. it just seems like this is the blame game. the house speaker would blame the president, the senate majority leader would blame the house speaker. who is to blame in all this? >> everybody is, carol. it's the blame game. i'm a little surprised at how personal harry reid just got in going after the speaker. it is true that things have clearly broken down, that goes...
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speaker john boehner to bring it to a floor for a vote. tom cole says he's confident boehner can get the plans he needs. >> he had over 200 republican votes, it's not as if he doesn't have an awfully strong hand to play. if it's a deal john boehner request accept, frankly, i think it will be passed in a bipartisan manner with a strong majority. if on the other hand he's neutral and not favorable. then his chances are going to be a lot slimmer. >> we will find out in the morning whether any progress came out of the senate leader mitch mcconnell's meeting with vice president joe biden. >>> we've been asking you our viewers to send in your thoughts, your messages to elected representatives, so let's close tonight with some advice from one of you to washington. >> my message to all of washington for the new year is to set partisanship aside working on behalf of 100% of the voters, fix this mess you've gotten us into, bring a balanced budget to the table to grow this economy for the long term not the short term. >> have a good night. i'm don le
speaker john boehner to bring it to a floor for a vote. tom cole says he's confident boehner can get the plans he needs. >> he had over 200 republican votes, it's not as if he doesn't have an awfully strong hand to play. if it's a deal john boehner request accept, frankly, i think it will be passed in a bipartisan manner with a strong majority. if on the other hand he's neutral and not favorable. then his chances are going to be a lot slimmer. >> we will find out in the morning...
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that's where speaker boehner's job gets really tough. on piers morgan tonight newt gingrich said if all else fails, go over the cliff. >> i think that no deal is better than a bad deal. i think going off this cliff is less dangerous than letting things build up for a year or two years to an even bigger cliff. i think that the president clearly has staked out a position of nonseriousness. and i think that it's very difficult for the house republicans right now to find any practical way to get his attention. so, he just won an election. he is feeling very good about himself. he is posturing brilliantly, putting the republicans in a corner. they need to relax. they don't have an election until november 2014. >> senior congressional correspondent dana bash joins me now. dana, can we expect fire woworkt the meeting this morning? >> reporter: possibly, carol. one thing that has been interesting with regard to john boehner's leadership of the republican conference, which certainly is very conservative and he has had to balance that with negotia
that's where speaker boehner's job gets really tough. on piers morgan tonight newt gingrich said if all else fails, go over the cliff. >> i think that no deal is better than a bad deal. i think going off this cliff is less dangerous than letting things build up for a year or two years to an even bigger cliff. i think that the president clearly has staked out a position of nonseriousness. and i think that it's very difficult for the house republicans right now to find any practical way to...
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today, house speaker john boehner doubled down. >> it was not a serious proposal. and so right now, we're almost nowhere. >> that doesn't sound good. republican congressman lee terry of nebraska was just as succinct but how shall i say this? more colorful. he told the "omaha world herald" we're screwed either way. we really have no leverage in these discussions. representative terry has said he is open to a deal that includes some new tax revenues. he's also said president obama has an incentive to allow the country to just go on over the fiscal cliff and then blame the republicans for it. just before we went on air tonight, senator max bachus, who chairs the senate finance committee, a democrat, indicated that scenario isn't out of the realm of possibility. listen to how he put it. >> if the other side is completely intransigent that the president has probably no choice but to say, okay, we're going to go over the cliff. that would not be my first preference. >> yeah. the senator pretty serious about that. bottom line, tonight both sides say that talks are stalled
today, house speaker john boehner doubled down. >> it was not a serious proposal. and so right now, we're almost nowhere. >> that doesn't sound good. republican congressman lee terry of nebraska was just as succinct but how shall i say this? more colorful. he told the "omaha world herald" we're screwed either way. we really have no leverage in these discussions. representative terry has said he is open to a deal that includes some new tax revenues. he's also said president...
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for what it's worth, president obama and house speaker boehner are talking. they had a nice telephone conversation. that's terrific. the first time in a week but apparently that's the headline. that's the editorial body. not much came out of it that we know of. sources say no real breakthrough. no formal negotiations. sessions are not scheduled. no back channel discussions taking place that anybody knows about at this time and as we wait for the white house briefing to begin, let's bring in wolf blitzer on this topic. there are a couple of polls that are very telling about how americans feel about congress and the president are behaving when it comes to the fiscal cliff. let me read some of these numbers for you. should obama compromise to get things done. 72% say yes. 22% say no. should the gop compromise to get things done. and take a look. 72% say yes. my question for you, wolf, i'm not sure you'll have the answer but perhaps you'll have guidance. for those democrats who say the president has a mandate because voters voted him into office while he campaign
for what it's worth, president obama and house speaker boehner are talking. they had a nice telephone conversation. that's terrific. the first time in a week but apparently that's the headline. that's the editorial body. not much came out of it that we know of. sources say no real breakthrough. no formal negotiations. sessions are not scheduled. no back channel discussions taking place that anybody knows about at this time and as we wait for the white house briefing to begin, let's bring in...
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does john boehner have more control? >> they think obama can get anything through the house of representatives. but everything that has happened since the election all of the moves in the republican caucus have been about boehner consolidating control over that tea party caucus that didn't allow boehner to get a deal in 2011. >> there will be some criticism about it being two people at the table. will they get a deal done? >> i think there's some criticism from republicans about secret negotiations. i hate to break to to people in washington, but all negotiations over policy are secret in washington. that's how legislation gets done. you have to be in a room with negotiators to cut a deal. i wouldn't fret. >> they get criticized for not talking to each other and criticized for how to talk to each other. king maker, leaving before his term is up. says he could be more effective outside of the senate. what are they making of this in washington? >> a lot of people say the allure of a think tank with a big salary. >> more th
does john boehner have more control? >> they think obama can get anything through the house of representatives. but everything that has happened since the election all of the moves in the republican caucus have been about boehner consolidating control over that tea party caucus that didn't allow boehner to get a deal in 2011. >> there will be some criticism about it being two people at the table. will they get a deal done? >> i think there's some criticism from republicans...
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something that boehner has been doing a lot of. let me explain how deficits between revenue and spending are mathematical and it's ridiculous and insulting to the intelligence to suggest that it is one or the other. the you want to balance the books, you spend less or bring in more. that's it. you can't make the argument that one or the other is the problem. every time he said it it's more and more ridiculous. i will complete his equation and tell you the truth where the politicians fall short. look at the bush era tax cuts that started in 2001 on the national debt. we projected it out to 2019, the big blob on the top. beige or butterscotch color. that's the bush era tax cuts and part of what is expected to be massive debt. that is the single biggist part of it, bigger than the cost of the wars or the economic downturn or t.a.r.p. or the cost of the bailouts of fannie mae and freddie mac and to all the measures to combat the crisis combined. i can't tell you whether we have a tax or a revenue problem, we have a math problem and it
something that boehner has been doing a lot of. let me explain how deficits between revenue and spending are mathematical and it's ridiculous and insulting to the intelligence to suggest that it is one or the other. the you want to balance the books, you spend less or bring in more. that's it. you can't make the argument that one or the other is the problem. every time he said it it's more and more ridiculous. i will complete his equation and tell you the truth where the politicians fall short....
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speaker boehner says it's credible and the white house should consider it. is it credible or is it more of what you have called the irresponsible unethical immoral behavior of all the politicians here in washington? >> i think both sides are now putting things on the table but i think they're confused. what we have to do in the short term is avoid the fiscal cliff. the major decisions with regard to tax reform, social insurance programs, et cetera, can't and shouldn't be made until next year, after the american people are engaged and the committees do their work. >> david gergen, how do you get the political solution that opens the door to the policy conversations? >> well, i was encouraged that the republicans actually came forward with something today. a lot of people thought they would not. the president as you know, his team rejected it late this afternoon, but nonetheless, if people truly want to find a bridge to avoid the fiscal cliff, a way to get to the big issues as david walker says would have to come next year, i think they're the makings of it he
speaker boehner says it's credible and the white house should consider it. is it credible or is it more of what you have called the irresponsible unethical immoral behavior of all the politicians here in washington? >> i think both sides are now putting things on the table but i think they're confused. what we have to do in the short term is avoid the fiscal cliff. the major decisions with regard to tax reform, social insurance programs, et cetera, can't and shouldn't be made until next...
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but late today speaker boehner and president obama did speak to one another on the phone. now, this is an important development because it's the first time they've talked in a week about the fiscal cliff. i am told, though, that there was no real progress in negotiations. in this sense there was no breakthrough on that central point of tax rates. as you know, president obama insists there is no deal unless the gop agrees to raise rates on the top 2% of earners. the gop says that's a nonstarter. and the two men have not moved from that basic position. now, all of this comes at the same time treasury secretary geithner also said for the first time the administration would be willing to go over the fiscal cliff if the gop does not agree to raise those rates. this was treasury secretary geithner earlier today on cnbc. >> is the administration prepared to go over the fiscal cliff? >> oh, absolutely. there's no prospect to an agreement that doesn't involve those rates going up on the top 2% of the wealthiest. all those americans, too, get a tax cut on the first $250,000 of their
but late today speaker boehner and president obama did speak to one another on the phone. now, this is an important development because it's the first time they've talked in a week about the fiscal cliff. i am told, though, that there was no real progress in negotiations. in this sense there was no breakthrough on that central point of tax rates. as you know, president obama insists there is no deal unless the gop agrees to raise rates on the top 2% of earners. the gop says that's a nonstarter....
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only 25% they say, you know, say the same for boehner. we do have one more poll, this is really the big kahuna, shows 65% believe the voters gave the president a mandate to raise tax rates on the wealthy. so dana bash, given all of that, do we have any idea what the republican calculus is here and apparently hardening now their position on the taxes? >> reporter: i'm not really sure if in reality their position is hardening on raising -- or keeping tax cuts in place for the wealthiest americans. it may have been on paper in the proposal, certainly departments are using that today. that is the story line of the day. democrats are using it politically against republicans. but i talked to so many republicans, trent franks is one of them, who kind of shrugged their shoulders and say they understand that they don't have leverage as you just illustrated in that poll that the democrats have leverage, for a number of reasons, whether it is the amount of -- that the president won by, politically, or just the substance of this argument, the democra
only 25% they say, you know, say the same for boehner. we do have one more poll, this is really the big kahuna, shows 65% believe the voters gave the president a mandate to raise tax rates on the wealthy. so dana bash, given all of that, do we have any idea what the republican calculus is here and apparently hardening now their position on the taxes? >> reporter: i'm not really sure if in reality their position is hardening on raising -- or keeping tax cuts in place for the wealthiest...
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john boehner needs to decide how he will get his caucus together. they're becoming increasingly isolated in their position. hopefully we can have a deal which protects the middle class. there is a piece of legislation sitting in the house today that would prevent taxes from going up on 98% of the american people. 97% of small businesses. they should go ahead and move that. and then we can have a broader discussion of how we achieve larger deficit reduction and avoid the fiscal cliff. but there's plenty of room and plenty of time for compromise. the president's position is clear. we're not going to do anything that hurts the middle class. we are going to protect those tax cuts for the middle class and for deficit reduction it needs to be fair and it needs to be balanced. everybody needs to pay their share so we can invest in the things we need to grow. >> i'm not sure about the plenty of time. 27 days. >> right. we are -- out of time. every day that goes by. >> stephanie cutter this morning -- >> every day that goes by, you can see more and more supp
john boehner needs to decide how he will get his caucus together. they're becoming increasingly isolated in their position. hopefully we can have a deal which protects the middle class. there is a piece of legislation sitting in the house today that would prevent taxes from going up on 98% of the american people. 97% of small businesses. they should go ahead and move that. and then we can have a broader discussion of how we achieve larger deficit reduction and avoid the fiscal cliff. but...
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that's why most lawmakers are not boxing boehner in. would you go for that? >> i think we have to look at the whole package and as i've said, let's leave everything out here. >> reporter: now, boehner said publicly he is still optimistic about getting a deal done but privately in that meeting with house republicans today, several lawmakers came out and told us that the speaker told them not to make any plans for christmas. wolf? >> does that mean all 435 members of the house, 100 senators are going to be told to stay here during that christmas week leading up to new year's? >> reporter: it is entirely possible. what leaders have done in the past, even as recently as last week, is sent home rank and file members while the leaders stayed and negotiated. but as we get closer to the holidays, it's entirely possible, even maybe probable that they will keep everybody here in case they actually do get a bill and they will be able to pass it fast. we know that when things move, they actually move very quickly and en there's a will to get out of here, particularly as
that's why most lawmakers are not boxing boehner in. would you go for that? >> i think we have to look at the whole package and as i've said, let's leave everything out here. >> reporter: now, boehner said publicly he is still optimistic about getting a deal done but privately in that meeting with house republicans today, several lawmakers came out and told us that the speaker told them not to make any plans for christmas. wolf? >> does that mean all 435 members of the house,...
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boehner says $800 billion. in the olden days they would just split the different at 1.2 trillion, come up with some number in between. is that likely this time? >> well, that's the number that has been banting around. it does seem like an obvious ending point for the president on revenue. but the speaker is looking, don't forget, for a different number on cuts. what will the president do on spending cuts. and today senator daughter bin said thdurbin would not be ableo increase the retirement age from medicare and that was something of a blow for the gop. they were surprised to hear that. the white house in the briefing said that's not true. that's not a position the white house has ado. so different sides on that position. probably speaker boehner will want to hear what the president has to say on that, wolf. >> thanksery much. stay on top of i and let us know when you hear from speaker boehner. >>> the other top story we're following right now, the bombshell announcement a little while ago that susan rice is w
boehner says $800 billion. in the olden days they would just split the different at 1.2 trillion, come up with some number in between. is that likely this time? >> well, that's the number that has been banting around. it does seem like an obvious ending point for the president on revenue. but the speaker is looking, don't forget, for a different number on cuts. what will the president do on spending cuts. and today senator daughter bin said thdurbin would not be ableo increase the...
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even though president obama and john boehner chatted by phone, there's no deal. republicans are not amused. >> incredibly many top democrats including the president seem perfectly happy to go off the cliff. that's why the president has been more interested in campaign rallies than actually negotiating a deal. >> many americans don't have much hope the two sides will make a deal and have moved to plan b. a retired teacher in utah has put off plans to get a new car. brian chandler, a data manager in atlanta is delaying buying a house despite needing space for a second kid due any day now and several families are shrinking the gift pile beneath the christmas tree this year. how about you? are you prepared if the nation goes off the fiscal cliff? facebook.com/carolcnn. facebook.com/carolcnn. your responses later this hour. >>> it's going to take massive amount of money to help the northeast recover from sandy. some $36 billion in new jersey alone. and now it's governor chris christie pushing the federal government to pick up 100% of that cost. if you are one of the m
even though president obama and john boehner chatted by phone, there's no deal. republicans are not amused. >> incredibly many top democrats including the president seem perfectly happy to go off the cliff. that's why the president has been more interested in campaign rallies than actually negotiating a deal. >> many americans don't have much hope the two sides will make a deal and have moved to plan b. a retired teacher in utah has put off plans to get a new car. brian chandler, a...
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. >>> the nra steps into the gun debate and house speaker boehner gets tripped up on the fiscal cliff by his own party. today in the aftermath of newtown, the national rifle association offers a safe school plan. >> the only think that stops a bad guy with a gun, is a good guy with a gun. >> our conversation with nra point man asa hutchinson. connecticut senator joe lieberman on the culture of violence. then the gop's civil war. >> not the outcome that i wanted, but that was the will of the house. >> republican versus republican on the fiscal cliff with congressman steven la tourest and mick mulvaney. weighing in, "usa today's" bureau chief susan page, ron brownstein and michael duffy, washington bureau chief for "time" magazine. i'm candy crowley. this is "state of the union." nine days after the mass shooting deaths in newtown, the president of the national rifle association joined the gun debate. >> i call on congress today to act immediately to appropriate whatever is necessary to put armed police officers in every single school in this nation. >> in a similar vein, lawmakers in a
. >>> the nra steps into the gun debate and house speaker boehner gets tripped up on the fiscal cliff by his own party. today in the aftermath of newtown, the national rifle association offers a safe school plan. >> the only think that stops a bad guy with a gun, is a good guy with a gun. >> our conversation with nra point man asa hutchinson. connecticut senator joe lieberman on the culture of violence. then the gop's civil war. >> not the outcome that i wanted, but...
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if it's a deal john boehner can accept, i think it will be passed in a bipartisan manner with a strong majority. if on the other hand he's neutral and not favorable. then his chances are going to be a lot slimmer. >> we will find out in the morning whether any progress came out of the senate leader mitch mcconnell's meeting with vice president joe biden. >>> we've been asking you, our viewers, to send in your thoughts, your messages to elected representatives. let's close tonight with some advice from one of you to washington. >> my message to all of washington for the new year is to set partisanship aside working on behalf of 100% of the voters, fix this mess you've gotten us into, bring a balanced budget to the table to grow this economy for the long term not the short term. >> have a good night. >>> i'm don lemon, and this is cnn's top ten of 2012. this hour we look at the stories that captured our attention. what we see as the biggest stories of the year, around the world in crime, money, weather and even the biggest scandals. and later this hour, the big reveal of the most intrigu
if it's a deal john boehner can accept, i think it will be passed in a bipartisan manner with a strong majority. if on the other hand he's neutral and not favorable. then his chances are going to be a lot slimmer. >> we will find out in the morning whether any progress came out of the senate leader mitch mcconnell's meeting with vice president joe biden. >>> we've been asking you, our viewers, to send in your thoughts, your messages to elected representatives. let's close tonight...
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it's interesting to hear boehner saying, listen, nowhere, period. nowhere. which sounded very final and very bloomy. earlier when i was talking to senator blumenthal, he was like, i'm optimistic. i'm kind of hopeful. what do you think? >> i think first of all the timing of this probably couldn't be worse for negotiation purposes from our perspective to some degree. right before the holidays, which is a tough time for politicians anyway. in some terms we feel like it's light years between now and the new year. it's really not. it's right around the corner. lawmakers will continue to feel a lot more pressure between now and then to get something done. at the same time we're coming off the heels of this election. to some degree we're kind of trying to find our negotiating legs, if you will. nonetheless, it's critically important. i think it's critically important we say to the american people that we get the fiscal house in order. >> how do you do that in realistically 29 days? what do you say? >> let me go back to this. no one should be surprised we are in the
it's interesting to hear boehner saying, listen, nowhere, period. nowhere. which sounded very final and very bloomy. earlier when i was talking to senator blumenthal, he was like, i'm optimistic. i'm kind of hopeful. what do you think? >> i think first of all the timing of this probably couldn't be worse for negotiation purposes from our perspective to some degree. right before the holidays, which is a tough time for politicians anyway. in some terms we feel like it's light years between...
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this was part of john boehner and plan. those tea party-backed conservatives say this is something that would help job growth. clearly what we're seeing here is republicans are not speaking with one voice. >> republicans should not be conceding that the federal government needs more money, negotiating with ourselves and treating the president's proposal like it's serious. >> we do agree that 8% of the american people are getting about 80% of this tax cut shouldn't have their taxes raised. my suggestion was let's take the one area we agree and take it off the table. >> but zoraida, as you saw there from the president earlier in that bloomberg interview, he is digging in, saying there can't be a deal unless upper income americans pay more. middle-class americans should get the bush era tax cut extension. is he not backing down from that at all. the president saying in that interview that he's not being stubborn. he's not being partisan but rather that it's, quote, a matter of math. >> we've been talking now for a while that a
this was part of john boehner and plan. those tea party-backed conservatives say this is something that would help job growth. clearly what we're seeing here is republicans are not speaking with one voice. >> republicans should not be conceding that the federal government needs more money, negotiating with ourselves and treating the president's proposal like it's serious. >> we do agree that 8% of the american people are getting about 80% of this tax cut shouldn't have their taxes...
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the president and the house speaker john boehner finally spoke yesterday by phone. they have both agreed to keep the details of the discussion under wraps. they're both standing firm on the tax hike, their positions on the tax hikes for the top 2%. listen. >> the revenues we're putting on the table are going to come from, guess who? the rich. >> once republicans acknowledge that rates are going up for top earners, we believe that an agreement is very achievable. >> kate balduan is in washington, d.c., this morning. so that's kind of a depressing thing, when just the advent of a phone conversation between the two top dealmakers is the headline, isn't it? >> i could not agree with you more. the fact that they spoke, but the fact that there's no progress, and that's a headline. i mean, if we want to take anything from it, any significance, it's the first time they've talked in a week. take that what you will. it's almost like hope springs eternal, but we are a long way from a deal still. neither side, as you said is giving on their basic position. president obama conti
the president and the house speaker john boehner finally spoke yesterday by phone. they have both agreed to keep the details of the discussion under wraps. they're both standing firm on the tax hike, their positions on the tax hikes for the top 2%. listen. >> the revenues we're putting on the table are going to come from, guess who? the rich. >> once republicans acknowledge that rates are going up for top earners, we believe that an agreement is very achievable. >> kate...
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but he's got to give john boehner something else. he's got to give him something he can take back to his faithful and say i've got something too. >> i'm going to start using gipper too. yes, i think he will get his bit there, but i think he will have to give, absolutely. it's going to be a compromise in the end. honestly, this is classic negotiation 101. they're going to wait until the last minute so they can both say to their side, hey, look, we fought this tooth and nail all the way up to the end and then we got our piece. so it's not surprising. you look at any of the past legislative issues, it always pushes to the last minute because that's how it's done. that's how you keep everybody happy. >> and it does seem unbelievably childish. but there you are. >> and hopefully some punches and a dance at the end. >> the ukraine-style punchout. >> that's right. >> the british way. margaret hoover, marjorie, thank you very much indeed. >>> warren buffett's son, howard, joins us to talk about money, politics, taxes, his famous dad and more
but he's got to give john boehner something else. he's got to give him something he can take back to his faithful and say i've got something too. >> i'm going to start using gipper too. yes, i think he will get his bit there, but i think he will have to give, absolutely. it's going to be a compromise in the end. honestly, this is classic negotiation 101. they're going to wait until the last minute so they can both say to their side, hey, look, we fought this tooth and nail all the way up...
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>> speaker boehner and i speak frequently. and, you know, i think the issue right now -- >> so, when? when will the two of you sit down in a room? >> you know, i don't think that the issue right now has to do with sitting in a room. >> reporter: in part, the white house was burned by the debt ceiling negotiations of 2011, when lots of meetings failed to stave off a fiscal nightmare. but there's another strategy at play. some in the administration say they learned in the first term the best way to break washington stalemates, rally the public to their cause. here's how the president put it to cbs news. >> so getting out of this town, spending more time with the american people, i need to do a better job of that in my second term. >> a better job of explaining? >> well, explaining, but also inspiring. >> now, wolf, for now, negotiations between the white house and congressional republicans are on deep freeze. at the white house, they are just waiting for the republicans to blink and agree to raise rates for the wealthiest. repub
>> speaker boehner and i speak frequently. and, you know, i think the issue right now -- >> so, when? when will the two of you sit down in a room? >> you know, i don't think that the issue right now has to do with sitting in a room. >> reporter: in part, the white house was burned by the debt ceiling negotiations of 2011, when lots of meetings failed to stave off a fiscal nightmare. but there's another strategy at play. some in the administration say they learned in the...
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boehner had a bad beating in that plan b vote. >> i think the main thing that boehner has going for him in the rivalry is he has the worst job in the world. >> is it really the worst job in the world? >> certainly the worst job in congress. speaker boehner has to sit there and eat a lot of stuff you wouldn't necessarily want to eat because there are a lot of republicans who basically want to emote, they want to act up and speaker boehner just has to take it and try to hammer deal and eric cantor, if he goes into boehner's role, he has to do the same thing boehner wants to do. >> the starting quarterback hates the number two quarterback and boehner, if he was smart, he should have dispatched him a long time ago and said, young man, i'm going to put you out to pasture if you pull that crap on me again. he made a mistake over the debt ceiling. >> the two of them are working very closely during the negotiations. if you ask any republican on the senate, nobody thinks boehner's speakership is challenged. >> but it only takes 17 votes for that whole thing to fall apart. it reminds me of "the g
boehner had a bad beating in that plan b vote. >> i think the main thing that boehner has going for him in the rivalry is he has the worst job in the world. >> is it really the worst job in the world? >> certainly the worst job in congress. speaker boehner has to sit there and eat a lot of stuff you wouldn't necessarily want to eat because there are a lot of republicans who basically want to emote, they want to act up and speaker boehner just has to take it and try to hammer...
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did boehner's remarks make the difference? >> good. look, i think it's great. we cannot reach a deal if you are posturing and negotiating through press conferences. they need so sit in a room, they need to look at each other, they need to talk constructive debate, and they need to move this ball forward. i think what happened today is a very good sign. americans should be encouraged. it's a good thing. when our congressional leadership and our president are actually capable of meeting and talking about the difficult issues that face this country. what a refreshing and new idea. >> when you hear people like -- so you hear members of the gop, anna and lz, saxby chambliss, corker, they're all saying, we're willing to do this, but the messaging you hear on television is quite different, than what is actually being said behind closed doors, you make a very good point, anna. lz, do you think they're going to get something done with face-to-face talks and do you agree there seems to be competing messaging going on here? >> you know, they have to do the posturing in or
did boehner's remarks make the difference? >> good. look, i think it's great. we cannot reach a deal if you are posturing and negotiating through press conferences. they need so sit in a room, they need to look at each other, they need to talk constructive debate, and they need to move this ball forward. i think what happened today is a very good sign. americans should be encouraged. it's a good thing. when our congressional leadership and our president are actually capable of meeting and...
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do you think john boehner and you know john boehner, the speaker of the house, do you think he can do with this present what gingrich and clinton did back in the '90s after the president was re-elected? >> well, i do. i think it's essential that he also understand his own caucus and i think when the election is done, remember they were trying to defeat the president. that has failed. so it's incumbent upon them now to realize there's per i will avoiding the message of the voters because the voters have spoken. also the senate democrats picked up seats across the country. now they're one region. so they're clear about that. and the president's always going to be open to different ideas, but not change the goals. and the goal is not just an economic strategy based on austerity, but one that is pro-growth, pro-middle class, that allows job creation while you're bringing fiscal discipline to washington. it's not one or the other, it's both. and obviously john boehner is wanting to work with the president. he's already expressed some opening to go that. it's going to take a while to get th
do you think john boehner and you know john boehner, the speaker of the house, do you think he can do with this present what gingrich and clinton did back in the '90s after the president was re-elected? >> well, i do. i think it's essential that he also understand his own caucus and i think when the election is done, remember they were trying to defeat the president. that has failed. so it's incumbent upon them now to realize there's per i will avoiding the message of the voters because...
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these negotiations are between two men, house speaker john boehner and the president. and once those two men agree, then they will take it to their folks. >> all right. kate balduan, live in washington. thank you. >> thanks, guys. >>> all right, recreational pot is now legal in washington state under a new law which took effect at midnight. adults can possess up to an ounce of marijuana legally. it's still against the law to grow pot or to sell it. but those celebrating the new normal are accentuating the positive. >> it's amazing. i'm not a criminal anymore. i can't go to jail for small amounts of marijuana, you know? it's -- i'm free to be free. >> the new law doesn't allow smoking in public places, just like alcohol, but police in seattle and across the state made an exception for overnight celebrations to ring in this new law. >>> so it's another public relations problem for penn state. the school's kai omega sorority is under investigation for stereotype i stereotyping latinos. pictures showed the sorority members in somberos with fake mustaches with signs that sa
these negotiations are between two men, house speaker john boehner and the president. and once those two men agree, then they will take it to their folks. >> all right. kate balduan, live in washington. thank you. >> thanks, guys. >>> all right, recreational pot is now legal in washington state under a new law which took effect at midnight. adults can possess up to an ounce of marijuana legally. it's still against the law to grow pot or to sell it. but those celebrating the...
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boehner hasn't cut cant or out. you ask any republican on the hill, nobody thinks boehner should be challenged. >> that does seem to be conventional wisdom. but it only does take 17 votes for that whole thing to fall apart. he reminds me of the godfather, keep your friends close, your enemies closer. >> he knows him too well to want to take it. >> that's a fascinating point as well. number two, we've got grover norquist versus the gop. and here's what's fascinating. he's been a major player, a huge figure, and yet the push back has been growing. the tide has been swelling. take a look at this montage clip of republicans pushing back on grover norquist in the atr pledge. >> i'm not obligated on the pledge. >> when you're $16 trillion in debt, the only pledge we should be making to each other should be avoid greed. >> i never signed the pledge. >> he's becoming irrelevant. you can see it in his eyes. he knows the game is up. >> a pledge you sign 20 years ago, 18 years ago, is for that congress. >> i'm going to be the
boehner hasn't cut cant or out. you ask any republican on the hill, nobody thinks boehner should be challenged. >> that does seem to be conventional wisdom. but it only does take 17 votes for that whole thing to fall apart. he reminds me of the godfather, keep your friends close, your enemies closer. >> he knows him too well to want to take it. >> that's a fascinating point as well. number two, we've got grover norquist versus the gop. and here's what's fascinating. he's been...
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and on tuesday john boehner, the 113th congress is sworn in and john boehner is expected to be elected to his second term as house speaker by a vote in the house. we'll see if everyone plays nice in the sandbox and work together to solve the country's problems in 2013. if you're sitting down to breakfast, this bowl of cereal, that milk can get more expensive if a fiscal cliff deal is not reached. that gallon of milk might cost as much as $7. cnn's candy crowley spoke with secretary of agriculture tom vilsack. $7 milk? this is known as the dairy cliff, right? >> yes, it is. we've been so focused on other kinds of cliffs, but, in fact, because there is no farm bill, they revert back to some laws that were enacted in the 1940s. it would cause -- because milk won't be, if you will, propped up, it would cause milk prices too almost double, at least according to the agriculture secretary. they're working on a fix, something like that which hits consumers so hard. they'll notice that immediately is likely to be something that congress does do something about. my guess is they will just extend
and on tuesday john boehner, the 113th congress is sworn in and john boehner is expected to be elected to his second term as house speaker by a vote in the house. we'll see if everyone plays nice in the sandbox and work together to solve the country's problems in 2013. if you're sitting down to breakfast, this bowl of cereal, that milk can get more expensive if a fiscal cliff deal is not reached. that gallon of milk might cost as much as $7. cnn's candy crowley spoke with secretary of...
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what john boehner said was pretty incredible. he did not take the opportunity to jump on the president. he said back off. this isn't the time to pick on him. >> it was a rare and welcome moment of old school statesmanship that partisanship ends at the water's edge. it was welcome. i think president obama's mic slip raises real questions about the fact that he hasn't laid out a vision for a second term yet but romney's gap compiles a problem we have seen which is talk of foreign policy has been limited. that is insufficient to the responsibilities of being president. congratulations for raising the bar. >> i have to say i thought that wasn't necessary. he didn't have to comment at all but he chose the throw the olive branch out. >> who knows? perhaps john boehner is looking forward to working with the president in the future but i think it was a sensible thing for him to do. >> speaker boehner often looks like a sensible person trapped in the crazyiness of his own congress. we saw that in his efforts to get a big deal last summer.
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boehner's got to get off -- the majority of the majority must agree to something. it's going to take democratic votes to pass a tough fiscal compromise and unless there is inclusion and discussion on both sides of the aisle about this issue, that compromise gets tougher and tougher. >> thank you for coming "outfront." >> appreciate it. thank you. >> now, on the other side of the aisle. republican congressman of wisconsin. congressman, you just heard your arizona colleague say you all should have absolutely stayed in d.c. and worked on a deal over the holidays. do you agree? >> i do. absolutely. we should have stayed there. i think the president should have stayed there. i think the government should have stayed in place and kept working on it. as a freshman member of the congress, i don't have the pull or the power to say when we're going to be there, when we're not but i will say this, that the u.s. house of representatives has acted. we're waiting for the senate to act and i believe that as soon as they act we'll be back in town to find some forge -- some pathway
boehner's got to get off -- the majority of the majority must agree to something. it's going to take democratic votes to pass a tough fiscal compromise and unless there is inclusion and discussion on both sides of the aisle about this issue, that compromise gets tougher and tougher. >> thank you for coming "outfront." >> appreciate it. thank you. >> now, on the other side of the aisle. republican congressman of wisconsin. congressman, you just heard your arizona...
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the president keeps talking about the $1 trillion that he offered speaker boehner. i've never seen it. have you ever seen it? i was surprised that david gregory today didn't pursue that in the interview because he's really good at those kind of things. i think if we can get that on the senate floor also, to deal with this next debt ceiling debate, i've laid out a specific plan, given it to the president, i've given it to senator reid, but that's what's missing and what's happening, unfortunately, we're going to move -- you know, we created this fiscal cliff and we're going to deal with it over the next few days or few weeks. but unfortunately, for our country, every american's quality of life is going to be lesser than it should be because now this is going to drag on to the debt ceiling. we're going to have the same thing play out. >> the president says he's not going to play games, not going to play politics. >> i think he should lay out the reductions. we set the precedent on a dollar for a dollar, dollar increase in debt ceiling for a dollar in reductions. i act
the president keeps talking about the $1 trillion that he offered speaker boehner. i've never seen it. have you ever seen it? i was surprised that david gregory today didn't pursue that in the interview because he's really good at those kind of things. i think if we can get that on the senate floor also, to deal with this next debt ceiling debate, i've laid out a specific plan, given it to the president, i've given it to senator reid, but that's what's missing and what's happening,...